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Poster: smgarcia Date: Nov 24, 2012 4:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: DSO in Times Square

I never had the pleasure, the honor, of seeing the Grateful Dead. I do listen to their music all the time and watch their videos. So I think I have an idea of what their concerts would be like had I gone.

Dark Star Orchestra are really good! They played 1977-05-07 (Boston Hall) last night. They are tight. I am surprised how good they are. It's impossible to replace the GD Sound and they do come quite close. Even their Jerry singer looks like him and kind of sings like him (although doesn't play like him).

I saw Furthur a few years ago and did NOT like the show. I was upset at the tinkerbell-sounding, plucky-stringing musical quality.

This shouldn't be sacrilege to write, but I would rather see DSO than Furthur now to impress upon me how the Grateful Dead sounded when they were kicking ass.

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Poster: buscameby Date: Nov 26, 2012 11:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: DSO in Times Square

Luv the idea of a Times Sq show but not even that would be better than the REAL THING.

I appreciate that there are so many folks trying to fill the VOID left by the GD, even the GD of the 90's was but a imposter of the real thing.

They all seem to have "moments", I do like the effort put up by Furthur. At least the set list are creative and they do have the "bassist extraordinaire" and Chimini is freaking AMAZING on the keyboards.

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Poster: Dancin'Deb Date: Nov 27, 2012 4:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: DSO in Times Square

I had both the pleasure and honor of seeing the Grateful Dead many times and I prefer DSO to Furthur...now don't get me wrong, I still can't say no to a Furthur show but if I had a choice, I would pick DSO...I like their energy and I find them more danceable (I'm sure my husband is shaking his head reading this but that is how I judge a band...) I can dance to Furthur but I can dance a little harder to DSO! I heard the Times Square show was great...glad you enjoyed it. Sadly, I'm going to miss them when they are in our area next month...

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Nov 26, 2012 12:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: DSO in Times Square

Except DSO is missing the point really. They are completely lead/rythmn guitar driven when in reality a GD band should always be bass driven. Phil set the table for Jerry, he wasn't just some guy "holding down the low end" he was 40% of what was happening (Jerry was 50%). The bass player in DSO needs to step up and be the #2 guy, not the #5 guy. Only then will they be a truely accurate GD tribute band.

This is why Furthur still has the edge, as they have an equal "Jerry" and an infintely better Phil. The real meat and potatoes of the GD as the rest is just filler.

Only thing DSO has is the bar band energy. They are a nice band, but put a real "Phil" up there who leads the band and they would really be something.

BTW - the guy playing bass for DSO is quite a good bassist, but that is beside the point, he needs to be the one leading the grooves not just following along or merely holding down the low end.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Nov 26, 2012 1:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: DSO in Times Square

> Phil was 40% of what was happening (Jerry was 50%)

Really? I think the splits aren't so clear. Bobby gets a good chunk. How could he not? As been said, no '68 without the drummers and I think they may have had a few other contributions down the line as well. Jeez, the last few shows I went to had Drumz as a highlight. Collectively, the keys probably deserve 10% alone.
But how much of a nerd am I, that I spent five minutes writing this as if there is an answer? It's 40%! No it's not, it's 35%!

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Nov 26, 2012 3:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: DSO in Times Square

ok, hyperbole, just a little bit.

But for me, it was the Phil and Jerry show with a really great (especially Billy K) ensemble cast.


DSO is Bob #1, Jerry #2, Keys #3, Drums #4 and bass at the back holding down the low end but rarely taking the leaders role. IOW, not like Phil at all.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 26, 2012 3:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: DSO in Times Square

If you look at '72-'74, Keith's percentage is as just about as high as Phil's imo. Don't underestimate Keith!

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Nov 26, 2012 4:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: DSO in Times Square


I won't underestimate Keith (you need to subtract 5% points for Donna) but you are dissin' Phil big time. IMO.